Hi Paige! I thought you'd be interested in this one :)...
I thought about what you said about not wanting legislation that's not protecting *every* child, and while i agree that that's what i'd like - i think i would still like to see legislation of some sort in Canada - at least then, *some* children wouldn't be killed... i.e. no third trimester abortions, or partial birth abortions (particularly lucrative since the organs are fully formed, and large, and command a hefty price...) We would still save *some* lives - much like "Schindler's List" - he couldn't help ALL of the Jews, but he at least tried to save some, and that was worth it...

stephanie

Thanks for reminding me about the HP - and i know you're right about sticking to the hard line... and plus, once we "settle" for something like this (that FOTF tells us to rejoice about) - it makes it, i think, almost spiritually impossible for us to get any more... i.e. we lose moral authority.... then again, look at the huge inertia about abortion, too...

stephanie


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: RE: embryonic stem cell research...

i'm emailing you a link to a page that listed over 40 charities that supported that bill... it's *not* ok ~ & because we're not even talking about it in the church, in 10 years, Cairo will ask me "mom, why is embryonic stem cell research something that is condoned by the church? Why didn't your generation stand up and say anything about it back then?"
paige
p.s. i'm not willing to say that it's ok at any stage, just to get legislation that protects *some*. They always want us to come to some sort of "compromise" in which we lose the whole battle because it becomes some sort of crazy "when does life begin?" question.. i'd rather just stand firm and say "it's *never* ok. Even if we get marginalized in the process ~ & even if it means we don't get any laws.

From: stephanie
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: embryonic stem cell research...

Paige, you probably did write on this one - i know i did... And it wasn't as bad as it *could* have been... What charities condoned this? The thing is, they have to make legislation on it otherwise we're in the same situation as abortion - no laws at all... and at least a lot of stuff is prohibited, although they can still make babies to "show how" and then kill them, or make them to experiment on for 14 days... you're right... canada is sick... I remember Focus on the Family felt that we had had an influence - but they also said that with the no spanking law... and i felt that it was still an eroding factor on parental rights and responsibility...

stephanie


----- Original Message -----
To: 'stephanie
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: embryonic stem cell research...

Oh, Steph... this is horrible. The government gave up control... and i didn't write one letter back then.... or do one thing. i've donated to charities who have condoned and supported this atrocity... i just did some reading today and am totally convicted.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/bills_ls.asp?Parl=37&Ses=2&ls=c13
How could i be so lazy?
paige

Here's a link to a list of 46 charity organizations in Canada that support embryonic stem cell research.

http://www.healthcharities.ca/en/2002_HCCC_Brief_Health_Cmttee.pdf

wow. The Canadian Diabetes Association phoned this morning to see if they could come and pick up any old clothes, or household items, and i said "i have to think about it". Now, i've given to them more times than i can count. Diabetes has affected our family in a very real way, but this morning in my devotions with the girls, we had prayed for God to reveal our sin to us. i hung up the phone and went to the computer. i knew what i was looking for and found so many articles showing the link and support between the Canadian Diabetes Association and embryonic stem cell research. i looked up Bill C-13 on the internet and as i read through lists of "prohibited" and "controlled" activities, my heart sank. i had been supporting an organization that showed a complete disregard for life at it's most fragile beginnings. Instead of being willing to die for our young, we're prepared to kill and cannibalize them for our benefit. Oh God, forgive my complacency. Forgive my hard heart. Help me to do what's right. Let my life bring glory to You.