tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post2913095453608576388..comments2023-11-05T03:13:13.353-07:00Comments on sojourner: immunizations - simplifying.paigehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11879573441359515525noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-42602080646411168752010-01-07T16:22:15.707-07:002010-01-07T16:22:15.707-07:00I'm commenting on a post way up on the list - ...I'm commenting on a post way up on the list - about the child who got measles because she was unvaccinated, and was in contact with a carrier at Disneyland.<br /><br />Please note that a few years ago there was a measles outbreak in Calgary in the public school system, among all the vaccinated children. It was so severe that the started a program to revaccinate students again. <br /><br />Grace F.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-75623583059358108062009-10-23T14:57:04.145-06:002009-10-23T14:57:04.145-06:00http://www.talecris-pi.info/inserts/hypertet.pdf
...http://www.talecris-pi.info/inserts/hypertet.pdf<br /><br />Okay, so... here's what I found. The tetanus toxoid which is the vaccine given with either the Pertusis and diptheria or the adult single dose is different from the immune globulin which is actually the antibodies grown in a volunteer adult who has taken the single dose (not contaminated with fetal tissue) of Tetanus toxoid. you Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06865176452058523006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-7340508992464240102009-10-23T14:48:55.574-06:002009-10-23T14:48:55.574-06:00To the best of my knowledge, Tetanus is not tainte...To the best of my knowledge, Tetanus is not tainted, BUT, you cannot get a child sized dosage in Canada that is not in a "group immunization" with other tainted vaccines. i wanted to get it one time when Peyton cut her foot on a piece of metal & my only options were to get the full dosage of vaccines, OR to give her the adult dosage of the tetanus. They would not order a child paigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879573441359515525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-66813879988802518842009-10-23T14:23:18.745-06:002009-10-23T14:23:18.745-06:00Paige or mamazee (stephanie, right?) do you know ...Paige or mamazee (stephanie, right?) do you know if the tetanus immune globulin (given after a serious wound) is grown using aborted fetal cells? It's something we had always figured we'd use if our kids were seriously cut or had a suspicious puncture wound. I guess I'll try to track down where it's made and the info and check for the code works you provided.Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06865176452058523006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-60390028067509582892009-10-22T20:37:13.215-06:002009-10-22T20:37:13.215-06:00Hey Deb, I would *love* the info on the delayed/se...Hey Deb, I would *love* the info on the delayed/selective vaccination that you have. :) I get so confused and flustered trying to find that kind of stuff.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16594395748165303362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-38739510178312930822009-10-22T19:36:35.175-06:002009-10-22T19:36:35.175-06:00MRC-5
WI-38
RA27/3
WI-26 V...MRC-5 <br />WI-38<br />RA27/3<br />WI-26 VA4<br />HEK-293<br /><br />these are some of the "code words" you can look for in the product inserts. Also - "human diploid cells"... i forget what else....mamazeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962451813247730516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-21334923995262729812009-10-22T19:34:39.559-06:002009-10-22T19:34:39.559-06:00Denise :)
and anyone else wondering.
Public health...Denise :)<br />and anyone else wondering.<br />Public health nurses don't always know - nurses and doctors don't always know.<br />for us, with our second child, i heard about the aborted fetal tissue (from a nonreligious, medical source) and was horrified - then i found out that the vaccine i'd just had my baby girl immunized with was actually a form of a sexually transmitted diseasemamazeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962451813247730516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-15388981218623393882009-10-22T18:11:55.936-06:002009-10-22T18:11:55.936-06:00You go girl :) Do as you feel led :)You go girl :) Do as you feel led :)Courtneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744100913701910782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-4363783809879789602009-10-22T18:08:55.991-06:002009-10-22T18:08:55.991-06:00i really, really appreciate your honesty, Courtney...i really, really appreciate your honesty, Courtney... i think for me, i'm not a member of the "anti-vaccine" cause... i'm just trying to do my best to listen to the Holy Spirit as he prompts. Prolife to me isn't a cause, it's a part of my life as a follower of Christ. <br />xoxo - (((hugs))) (trying to tread gently)paigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879573441359515525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-52589580401609750962009-10-22T17:41:49.957-06:002009-10-22T17:41:49.957-06:00Paige! Love you too girl! Funny that I don't ...Paige! Love you too girl! Funny that I don't really care what's in the vaccines as long as Keziah doesn't die from H1N1 or any other diseases preventable from vaccination<br /><br />.... my daughter's life is more important to me then being prolife I guess.. (and I'm not ashamed of that:) I'm not willing to loose my daughter(or son) to stand up for a 'cause.' No Courtneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744100913701910782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-17980464831107117322009-10-22T17:31:59.064-06:002009-10-22T17:31:59.064-06:00Courtney - Don't tremble with me! Like i said...Courtney - Don't tremble with me! Like i said, no flames. What i really wanted to do, was to open up to discussion the use of aborted fetal tissue in culturing vaccines. That's why it's great that there is a lot of info out there on selectively immunizing... The powers that be, need to be working on ethical alternatives & instead, they are working on culturing a flu vaccine on paigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879573441359515525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-77056859455903298562009-10-22T17:30:14.127-06:002009-10-22T17:30:14.127-06:00Hey Lola,
I was just reading your blog and saw y...Hey Lola,<br /> I was just reading your blog and saw your picture of Maria! I love Maria!!! Small world!!Courtneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744100913701910782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-47183957791409446612009-10-22T17:25:40.018-06:002009-10-22T17:25:40.018-06:00Ditto on Deborah's Chicken pox request.Ditto on Deborah's Chicken pox request.Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06865176452058523006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-35486563204409439912009-10-22T17:19:45.981-06:002009-10-22T17:19:45.981-06:00Now that said, I have selectively vax'd Neely ...Now that said, I have selectively vax'd Neely (and delayed it too - read about Japan's experimental delay schedule and I was sold), but the reaction from her last (and only her second) time going will likely prevent me from returning.<br /><br />And if anyone's child has the chicken pox..please send them my way. ;)deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08675389544864607125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-42515951216151524272009-10-22T17:17:59.835-06:002009-10-22T17:17:59.835-06:00I'm loving reading these comments and this isn...I'm loving reading these comments and this isn't even my blog. I had to jump back on here Paige, just to add some from my previous comment - about the article. My issues with it had nothing to do with the Catholic position on it, but more of the author's presentation. He parallels the donation a heart from one's dead son to the development of vaccines from an aborted baby - SO deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08675389544864607125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-17116936509049409572009-10-22T17:06:33.033-06:002009-10-22T17:06:33.033-06:00My heart trembles at writing a comment! I hate to...My heart trembles at writing a comment! I hate touchy subjects... especially in blog land. Talk to me one on one and I'm ok... but this is scary stuff. I feel like are family is at too much of a risk NOT to get the shots.... Still haven't decided though.Courtneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744100913701910782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-90168392456624689992009-10-22T16:54:52.492-06:002009-10-22T16:54:52.492-06:00Here we get the occasional letter reminding us tha...Here we get the occasional letter reminding us that their shots aren't up to date. On Vancouver Island the health nurse called and asked if we would be vaccinating or not so they would know whether or not they should be bothering us with scheduling phone calls. I almost fell out of my chair. <br /><br />In regards to the Measles (which I know sounds so incredibly scary to a lot of people)Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06865176452058523006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-21298044825633472272009-10-22T16:28:50.088-06:002009-10-22T16:28:50.088-06:00I was actually pleasantly surprised when I had to ...I was actually pleasantly surprised when I had to take Isaac to the childrens awhile ago. On the triage form, it asked if immunizations were up to date, partially or not immunized at all. The nurse didn't even blink at it, and didn't say anything. She just confirmed 'he hasn't had any', and I said no. <br /><br />Also the health nurse phoned our house shortly after the 2 monthLisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16594395748165303362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-44732538576876431502009-10-22T15:55:27.405-06:002009-10-22T15:55:27.405-06:00Well, i think that anytime i have had to take a ch...Well, i think that anytime i have had to take a child to emergency, i've had to go through our reasons for choosing not to vaccinate. i've had extremely negative reactions most of the time - (ridicule or fear mongering) - & sometimes i'm pleasantly surprised by acceptance. i think it would be wise to carry some compelling arguments in your purse - articles backing up your choicepaigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879573441359515525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-65123176858155616882009-10-22T15:16:14.691-06:002009-10-22T15:16:14.691-06:00I think the way our health system expects every ch...I think the way our health system expects every child to be vaccinated that it would make me feel like I was a terrible parent if I didn't! Kind of peer pressure to comply... I imagine there are an awful lot of parent out there who don't research at all, but the kids are herded in for their shots a bit like cattle at branding time!<br /><br />I also think if you are a public health Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-82281634550969877902009-10-22T15:03:41.221-06:002009-10-22T15:03:41.221-06:00I just noticed you are almost down to the double d...I just noticed you are almost down to the double digits Paige!!! Yee Haw!!! I'm getting so excited to meet the new Beselt!!<br />Oh and I think I would have been surprised if this wasn't the first "wrestling" topic you picked...lol<br />I love your passion!Lori-Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17808774076360075864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-85110897503394321652009-10-22T14:51:29.716-06:002009-10-22T14:51:29.716-06:00Jen...it IS simple, for those who have already mad...Jen...it IS simple, for those who have already made the decision either way...lol<br />this is one area Jamie and I are totally at peace with and agree on..and we haven't vaccinated since Silas was 2...so the others haven't been vaccinated at all. For me, it is hugely a prolife issue, for Jamie, it's all the toxins that are present in them...I just posted about the H1N1 vaccine on myLori-Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17808774076360075864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-36740024973673232372009-10-22T14:51:01.458-06:002009-10-22T14:51:01.458-06:00Just to add a little different perspective: a gir...Just to add a little different perspective: a girl at our church whose family homeschools and chose NOT to vaccinate, was hospitalized with measles this past spring - she was a very sick little girl. Measles are not much of a concern in Canada anymore, because most of us choose to have our children vaccinated. This family had a trip to Disneyworld in Florida and the health unit traced the Carolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-22933140674249335732009-10-22T14:39:53.113-06:002009-10-22T14:39:53.113-06:00P-
Why did you title this post 'simplifyling&...P- <br />Why did you title this post 'simplifyling' when it really isn't simple at all! :)<br />JJenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00823252867933499347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20508519.post-33759262025938922692009-10-22T14:12:27.490-06:002009-10-22T14:12:27.490-06:00Actually, i don't think i did know that, Lisa ...Actually, i don't think i did know that, Lisa :) <br />Lola, who posted above offered advice on a delayed schedule... i'm afraid i don't have a ton of info on it as we've decided to just *not* vaccinate. i figure if the littles choose differently when they're older, we'll explain why we did what we did & they can always get them later (except now most of them won'paigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879573441359515525noreply@blogger.com